Rogan warns Trump voters feel the Iran war has betrayed them and "there is no easy way out"
Joe Rogan told Michael Douglas that the Iran war has angered Donald Trump's voters, who believed they had elected the president to prevent new conflicts.
Rogan says Trump supporters feel betrayed by the Iran war after Trump talked about "no more war" on the campaign trail.
The podcast's Joe Rogan spoke with actor Michael Douglas about how many people who specifically voted for Trump to stop foreign wars are upset that he's starting foreign wars in Iran.
Podcaster Joe Rogan discussed the war in Iran with actor Michael Douglas on Wednesday, arguing that the conflict has angered supporters of President Donald Trump, who voted for him in part because of his promises to avoid new wars.
"I don't like this Iran war in any way, shape or form," Rogan said. "It doesn't make sense to us. It seems like it's really out of control. They've been trying to get every single president to do this, including Trump in his first term," Rogan said on his podcast.
Douglas, who is both Jewish and a pro-Israel Democrat, agreed that the conflict was a mistake.
"Now we've done it, and it's very clear that it's a big quagmire. It's very clear that there's no easy way out. It's not good," Rogan said. And still many people insist that this should happen, that Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world and what they were doing was funding and arming these forces and getting them to do these things - to commit these terrorist attacks. And I'm sure a lot of that is true."
Rogan says Trump "f--- it over," may turn the country back to the Democrats in 2028 with an unpopular Iran war.
"I agree," Douglas said, referring to his concern about the spread of conflict after an attack on an airport in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, which he compared to attacks on major U.S. airports. The actor then added: "I am surprised by all the information from the West and the information from the Israelis that we have not managed this situation better."
"Well, look, obviously I'm not an expert on international relations, but I don't think the picture they painted of how it went down was even remotely accurate," Rogan responded to criticism that the Trump administration was convinced the conflict would be an easy win.
"Yeah," Douglas agreed. After Rogan recalled Iran's crackdown on protesters and mass arrests, Douglas said "tens of thousands" had been arrested, appearing to suggest the war was instigated by Israel.
"I think Israel was provoked by the fact that they had information that these key Iranian leaders were all going to be together and they were convinced to get them all out. We could turn it around and yeah, we didn't," the actor said.
"I don't know how they convinced Trump to do that," Rogan said. "I know that in any international conflict, I'm sure even during Vietnam, even after people kind of knew the Gulf of Tonkin was a horse--, I'm sure even today there are people who defend the Vietnam War," Rogan said, referring to U.S. claims that the U.S. was attacked. Maddox in Vietnamese waters on August 4, 1964, which escalated the conflict.
"You want to get people who support this war." "But I think the majority of the United States felt that one of the things we voted for Trump was, 'No more war,'" he continued. Stop this---. It seems crazy. You know, when I remember one of his speeches or one of his interviews, someone would ask him about Ukraine. Do you want Ukraine to win? Do you want Russia to win?" And he said, "I just want people to stop dying." "And most of the people who voted for him on that basis are very upset that there is a new war going on."
Rogan also admitted that experts have warned about the increase in Iran's missile production and the dangers of this country acquiring nuclear weapons.
He said: "I completely agree that Trump's decision to start a war with Iran has deeply disappointed the anti-war component of his 2024 coalition, and it will be very difficult to bring them back." The gap between what he clearly promised - no more war - and what he has done - yet another selective war in the Middle East that does not serve US interests - could not be wider.
Like Rogan and Douglas, Parsi agreed that "Israel's definition of Iran could not be further from the truth, because Iran's military capabilities and the flexibility of the theocracy were much stronger than the Israelis had claimed."
He offered a grim assessment of the future of the Republican Party.
"The war created a huge rift in the Republican Party and created a MAGA against America First," Parsi said. Many of them left the Democratic Party because of the war in Ukraine and Gaza. "Now many of them will return to the Democratic Party because of the war in Iran."
"These voters were crucial to Trump's success in 2016 and 2024, and their importance is likely to increase," he added.
"He proudly delivered on his promise to deny the Iranian regime the ability to develop nuclear weapons, and Americans are now safer because of his bold leadership," he added. The President makes these critically important national security decisions based on the best interests of the American people.
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